A DC located band that existed from 1987-1990. They released two full length albums: 's/t' and 'Hell Yes I Cheated' as well as two 7" EPs: '"Down" and ""With Dave". A 3rd ep was released by THD Records after the band broke up and contains songs that were not used on the Down ep. A complete discography is available from Jade Tree Records. Members have gone to or have been in: Dag Nasty, Bluetip, Retisonic, Sweetbelly Freakdown, Jesus Eater, Shudder To Think, Fury, Leslie and Red Hare.